The King of Kings

This blog focuses on the differences between Christianity and Islam. Of course, when talking to Muslims, it is often best to discuss similarities of the two religions in order to build a bridge of communication. However, at some point, the truth starts standing out and can no longer be suppressed. Yet these issues need to be handled with reverence and respect (1 Peter 3:15). Sometimes these distinctives are not caused by an issue of doctrine. Instead, they occur because characters on the two opposing sides of the grand eternal spiritual struggle are referenced identically. The hero is called the villain and the villain is called the hero. To see this in action, consider the one who is entitled “The King of kings”.

In the abstract, the title “King of kings” refers to an absolute ruler. It indicates complete and utter sovereignty, such as the kind that God alone possesses. Thus, in the New Testament the title “King of kings” is given to the only one worthy of it, God. Sometimes the title refers to God the Father, such as this reference from 1 Timothy 6:14-16.

14 that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which He will bring about at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

Other times the title “King of kings” refers to God the Son. These references appear in the book of Revelation, where Jesus is fully revealed as the King of kings (Revelation 17:14). This title of King of kings is so important, it will even be inscribed on His garments when he returns to earth (Revelation 19:16).

At this time when the true King of kings is being more fully revealed, massive events are underway. A great battle will occur and the unholy trinity of Satan, the beast, and the false prophet will be dealt with. The beast and false prophet will be thrown alive into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20). Satan will also be thrown into the lake of fire after being bound for a 1,000 years (Revelation 20:2, Revelation 20:10). As the enemy of God, Satan is constantly trying to undermine God’s purposes. Yet his doom is guaranteed when the King of kings, the Almighty Sovereign, hands Satan his ultimate defeat. From Satan’s point of view, this Sovereignty of God must be the most terrifying aspect of God.

So what does any of this have to do with Islam? As it happens, in Islam the King of kings is a name that carries a much different connotation. While the term never appears in the Qur’an itself, it does appear in the Hadith, the traditions of Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted and reliable Hadith collection within Islam, we learn something about Allah. Here is what Muhammad says about Allah and the name “king of kings”.

Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).” [i]

Within Islam, the most odious and fearful name from Allah’s point of view is the one calling himself the King of kings. It’s also written within the Islamic literature that Allah’s wrath will be targeted at the one calling himself the King of kings. From another well respected Hadith collection, Sahih Muslim,

Abu Huraira reported from Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) so many ahadith and one of them was this that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The most wretched person in the sight of Allah on the Day of Resurrection and the worst person and target of His wrath would of the person who is called Malik al-Amlak (the King of Kings) for there is no king but Allah. [ii]

Let’s recap. From the Christian point of view, Satan is the enemy of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is God who alone who holds the title “King of kings.” In the end times Satan will target his wrath at the King of kings, who is God. Yet Satan is in terror at this name because by it his plans to battle God will be thwarted. Conversely, from the Islamic point of view, it is Allah who despises this name “King of kings” and it is toward the one calling himself this title that Allah will pour out his wrath.

So exactly who is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings?” Is it Allah or Satan?

[i] http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_8_73.php

[ii] http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=025&translator=2&start=0&number=5339#5339

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58 Responses to The King of Kings

  1. How is ignorance bliss? Why do people choose to be uninformed?

  2. Bahi says:

    Revelation 1:7-8 New King James Version (NKJV)
    Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
    “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

  3. So you are saying that Muhammad was alarmed that ” MALIK-AL-AMLAK”
    “The King Of Kings” (Y/eshuah) ( Jesus )
    will be there to expose him as the False Prophet ?

    • I am saying that both Allah and Satan are in terror at the one who is “king of kings” and that both Allah and Satan will pour out their wrath on the one who refers to Himself in this way.

      • Edwin S Bedford says:

        G/Day Robert. Shalom ! I have had to move away from the English translations since my retirement, due to the errors, mainly in, translation. I am not going to compete with the incredible gift that Yahweh has bestowed upon you, it is wonderful to see what Elohim is doing with the youth in these last days.
        At the birth of our first son Nathan in 1972 we felt that the responsibility of raising a family was beyond our capabilities and so we had our children dedicated to Yahweh. I was very lucky that I wasn’t brought up in religious circles and it wasn’t till I was 19 that I started searching for ( God ) ( Not that he was lost ) Alcohol, drugs, tobacco took a long time to shake off, but you must never dwell on the past as Lucifer loves to use this. Keturah and Caleb came 10-12 years later ( Keturah was Abraham’s 2nd wife and Caleb was the 1st to enter the promised land. I picked the name “Keturah” from a Negro Spiritual singer in the States called “Ketty Lester” “Love Letters”.
        I am not a good speaker or writer, but Yahweh has laid the gift of Watchman upon me so I would like to reveal some controversial subjects to you if you would allow me the privilege. Not this time, as I wouldn’t like to waste your time in case you are to busy. One subject that is now able to be revealed
        is the subject of Torah. If you look into what the West calls the Old Testament, and read through the first roughly 550 pages you will find something very odd. Considering the Jewish people claim that they read and believe the Torah, it is surprising to not find the word Jew until we get to 2nd Kings Ch 16 v 6. If this is a shock to you please be at peace as this is a revelation and I would never lead you away from your faith in (Your Lord Jesus Christ) that is not his real name but that is for later. If you would read the first 550 pages and pray about this you will find that the word Jew should not be in the Bible, and that is what I mainly read from now,www.isr-messianic.org

        however I do confer with numerous scriptures to verify. Have a look at this Bible as there is quite a bit of info on why we should read from it. I am going to leave it here and let you think about what I have said, if you know what I am revealing please let me know. It has taken many years to have this revealed to me and lots of anger, and this revelation would not have happened if our father who fought in ww2 had not passed away. I will explain more if I get a reply from you. Yahweh my Elohim bless you and keep you in these troubled times, regards Stuart Bedford.

        • Ed,

          By all means share what is on your mind. I am not quite sure where you are going. I know the word “Jew” does not appear until much later, as the Israelites are called Hebrews earlier on. I am failing to see any possible implications of this fact.

  4. Quiet Rider says:

    When asked who exactly is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings,” Allah or Satan? There is no question in my mind; they are both one and the same.

    • Pat says:

      thank You. that is absolutely accurate. The description of Satan in the Bible matches the description of Allah in the Quran.

  5. Quiet Rider says:

    So exactly who is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings?” Is it Allah or Satan? There’s no question about it! They are both one and the same.

  6. Justin says:

    Jesus wins in the end. Satan/Allah loses hands down. End of discussion.

  7. Danny says:

    Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords,people who don’t read the bible they don’t know,believe in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is coming back on a white horse and the Army in heaven follow him on a white horse he’s going to throw Allah and his false prophet,in to lake of fire

  8. Haris says:

    Which verse in the Quran does it say this?About the king of kings and allahs wrath against him?

  9. Quiet Rider says:

    While the term never appears in the Qur’an itself, it does appear in the Hadith, the traditions of Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted and reliable Hadith collection within Islam, we learn something about Allah. Here is what Muhammad says about Allah and the name “king of kings”.

    Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).”

  10. Sonia says:

    I have taught this to my grandchildren, allah is the image of Satan.

    They understand and hopefully will never join this evil demonic religion. Where I live, muslims have been brought into my community by the coachload. They have seemingly (on the surface) integrated. But, on entering their homes by invitation you are immediately dragged into a debate on religion. I fear NO man and will inform my Muslim neighbour of the similarities of allah to Satan. Yes! They argue, they become agitated. But, dot debate with someone whom have spent 12 years studying this demonic creed.

    May the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob bless all whom call upon him.

    • bash says:

      images are NOT allowed in islam as it was not allowed in the bible. Remind yourself of the first commandment. There is no “image” of god. Images were for the pagans and the heathens who worshiped men, graven images, spirits and nature.

      • Bash,

        You are correct that images of God are strictly forbidden. In Islam, so are images of Muhammad. What conclusion can you draw from considering both of these facts in conjunction?

        • Bash says:

          You missed the point…THERE IS NO IMAGE OF GOD. You can not explain, contrive, perceive, within the known and unknown universes, anything that can adequately describe the One that created the all. Unfortunately, European Christianity had been beseeched with an inaccurate, misleading, racially biased, presumption of islam. As you, your kids learned mathematics, science, geography and were told that man was created in God’s image then went on to create a white god called jesus and you saw yourselves as him, you used all these things gained from the same people you disparage. Semitic people’s origins are african origins, african linquistics, your scientific method was pioneered by Moors, your numbering system (arabic numerials) was given to the west by muslims. Your church was sucking out bad demons with leeches while ex communicating davinci. It took 325 years for western Christianity to “decide” who OR what “god” was and THEN decided on “the trinity”. Then came the protestants who said the the Catholic church…the church of the west was what?…wrong? Please tell me you are not that ignorant of the truth of western Christianity…the same Christianity that justifies forcing people to become Christians…or become slaves. The same western Christianity that forced a pluralistic society that educated europe through Spain after 700 years of muslim, christian and jewish intergration into exile…based on race and creed. You know…the Inquisition. Jesus…is not god, Moses is not god, Muhammad is not god, Buddha is not god…but they all worshiped the One. I don’t care if you accept the last prophesied prophet Muhammad, but don’t think your breaking the first commandment is going to be accepted by Jesus or forgiven by his Creator.

          • Bash,

            I would love to dispel many of your misconceptions regarding Christianity. However, we must stay focused. If you would like to answer any of questions individually, I would be happy to do so.

            But back to the main point. If it is God who is not able to be pictured, than why do Muslims say Muhammad can not be pictured?

            It’s a very simple question.

  11. Pat says:

    You go!!! It is unbelievable how many Christians, especially christian leaders who defend them.

    • Bash says:

      It is a biblical tradition. No images. Throughtout all those years of Judaism.,,all those prophets…where are their pictures? Images..give a false depiction, a misrepresentation of that which is to be revered. The focus is on the creator…not the creation. Think about this…have you read the accounts of how Jesus looked? Does it fit the false image presented? So, when these people say they “saw god” meaning jesus…who are they really seeing? Is it a devil putting thise false images and ideas in their psyche? Muhammah, like ALL 124000 prophets sent to all of mankind guided to the creator, not to themselves. Was Buddha a buddhist, was jesus a christin, was muhammad a mohammadian…no. What was Abraham…he wasn’t a jew. God said “I am that I am”…at that time and now…it is unseen, indescribable as it is…immutable. Jesus is as he is…a man a man of god he is as he and others had seen him. Unfortunately, those with unclean hwarts saw him as god despite him saying it is all God’s doing.

  12. Quiet Rider says:

    Those who practice the Islamic religion have learned how to be two-faced. When they need to make allies of their enemies, they are as friendly as a human being can be. But as soon as they get the upper hand, they turn in a flash and their true colors start to show. It sounds an awful lot like the anti-Christ, doesn’t it, during the seven years of tribulation that’s talked about in the book of revelation?

    • Pat says:

      To Bashir: The Quran is referring to Jesus as the King of Kings even though most Muslims do not realize it. The Quran says at the end times, Allah will hate the king of kings the most. The Bible calls JESUS The KING of KINGS! That can only be Jesus. Who hates Jesus the most? Satan. Who is allah? Satan! The Quran description of Allah matches EXACTLY with the Bible description of Satan, The best deceiver, Taqiyya-lying and a bunch of other descriptions of Allah all match to Satan. . Who is the father of lies? Again, Satan. When did Muhammad say he was a prophet? He didn’t. He referred to himself as a terrorist. “I have been made victorious with Terror.” Did Allah create the universe? That is funny considering, according to the Quran, Allah does not know how to count to 100. If you read the Bible, you would find out the truth as many other Muslims found out when they read it. The true God is Love, Not the hate that Allah and Muhammad spew in the Quran and Muhammad’s hadiths. I can show you dozens of sayings in the Quran that prove Allah is Satan and Jesus is God. Why is there an entire chapter in the Quran dedicated to DEMONS? Why do the demons say the Quran is good and they will follow it? Because it is good for the followers of Satan. Why do you worship a black rock in the Kaaba and believe it used to be white but it absorbed so many sins it turned black. Only the real God can forgive sins. Why does the Quran call Jesus the “Word of God,” and the “Spirit of God?” Is the word created or creator? Why is Jerusalem not mentioned in the Quran but Muslims want it as their capital? Why can the Muslim Countries NOT defeat tiny Israel, no matter how big of an army they have? Because the REAL GOD said Israel would NOT be removed from her land. Israel IS GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE. Why is Jesus Love and say to LOVE your neighbor and Allah said to KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS? Would a real God create a race when he can’t destroy the ones he has already created? Why would he continue to create Jews? He is unable to defeat Israel as it is. Why is it that Muslims who read the Bible realize they have been lied to their entire lives and Christians are people of love and Jesus DID acknowledge being the Son of Godand then the become followers of Jesus and have love in their hearts, even for their enemies and those that hate them?
      https://www.facebook.com/faithinsider/videos/137953643518069/

      • bash says:

        Lie…Isa (Jesus) will return…but it will be like the parable jesus gave of the king, his son, the wedding and those who attended…but were unclean. Now…the question for Christians (less so than Jews) is what is considered “unclean” to the Creator?

        • bash,

          What a great question. Here is what God says regarding this issue in John 3:18,

          He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

          • Bash says:

            325 years…do your homework. The council of Nicea. 325 years to “figure out” who or what god is or isn’t. I’ll stick to the first interpretation that was not intermingled with greco-roman pantheism…the first commandment that required no interpretation. Is that ok? Maybe not since you believe it wasn’t good enough for the jews. I believe in Jesus…but god is not wak enough to need someone to do his work.

          • You seem eager to point out that the Trinity was not officially adopted as a Christian doctrine until the fourth century. It is true that the church officially voted at the Council of Nicaea to clarify doctrinal positions. However, your view reverses cause and effect. The Council of Nicaea did not cause the Trinity to be standard Christian doctrine; the standard and well-accepted doctrine of the Trinity resulted in the effect of the Council codifying it in order to avoid later confusion.

            The Council needed to put language to what the disciples first preached and every Christian for 325 years had been saying. If you would like to discuss Biblical passages which illustrate this point, I would love to do so.

  13. Bashir Gaalib says:

    Once again…you people have taken things out of context. First…Isa(jesus) is the messiah. Two, people called him “king of kings”, he did not refer to himsrlf that way. Three, in terms of Islam, the “king of kings” statement is not referring to Jesus. It referes to those who see themselves as kings…case in point…President Drumpf (Trumps real family name…a good nazi name). Also, these sayings are a countdown to return of Jesus…as certain things must pass and this “king of kings” is a mindset of the rulers of that time. You people can’t pull things out of context just to justify your position…that is deceitful. You have non muslims who haven’t even mastered the four languages of the bible trying to interpret a language…google can’t even translate correctly. Do yourselves a favor…if you really want to know the truth about muslims and islam…ask one…not someone who is prejudiced.

    • Quiet Rider says:

      Are you a Christian? I’m sorry, but if you’re an Islamist, I do not believe a word you say for you follow a ‘god’ that admits he is the greatest deceiver and he requires his followers to lie on his behalf.

      • Pat says:

        Quiet Rider: Islam is the Anti Christ. Even the Quran says so. They turn everything in the Bible backwards. 666 is a good number (to them), The beast is good. Jesus comes back to punish the Christians and tear the crosses from them. And much, much more. If you know the Bible, just turn everything around. What is good in the Bible is bad in the Quran and what is bad in the Bible is good in the Quran.

        • Quiet Rider says:

          Yes, I know. Jesus teaches us to love our enemies. The Islamists teach to kill those who do not believe as you do. The God of the Bible is the God of Truth. The Islamists, on the other hand, follow a ‘god’ that teaches deceit and boasts about it. The ‘god’ of Islam is actually Satan, the Great Deceiver, which is what he calls himself in the Quran.

      • Bash says:

        What the eff is an “islamist”? What are you some Fox News watcher? It seems as if you have fallen into some Orwellian dream. Three minutes of hate, newsspeak. Meaningless jargon to solicit and emotional response to preprogrammed dogma. Please…you’ve got to come better than that.

    • Pat says:

      Thats funny saying Trumps name is a good nazi name when the Muslims conspired with the nazis to kill Jews. I am not for trump but you need to say something better than that.

  14. Quiet Rider says:

    Are you a Christian? I’m sorry, but if you’re an Islamist, I do not believe a word you say for you follow a ‘god’ that admits he is the greatest deceiver and he requires his followers to lie on his behalf.

  15. Pat says:

    Bashir, By the way I have studied Islam for many years and yes even with some ex Muslims and ex Imams. You, as most Muslims put things into the context that fits what they want to fit. Cse in point. Muhammad said Allah was a single God and then he said he had a wife and daughters but then when his followers complained that Allah was not alone he switched back and said that he had been misled by Satan. Why is that? Answer my questions, Why can’t Allah count to 100? Why have the Muslims been unable to defeat Tiny Israel? Why does the Bible say that Gideon defeated the Midianites and his last act was to tear the crescent symbols from their neck and that Jesus would do the same thing at the end? How did they know thousands of years ago, that God’s enemies would have the crescent moon symbol? Why was Muhammad wrong when he said that Men’s CUM came from their backs, when it is known now it comes from the balls? Why did Muhammad not know he was going to Heaven or Hell? Why was he unable to heal the sick, raise the dead, or as the Quran says, create a bird out of dust like Jesus? Why was he not called the word of God or the Spirit of God? Why did Muhammad marry a six year old and have sex with her when she was 9 years old? What other REAL prophets did not perform miracles? He was no prophet. He slaughtered innocent people, killed children, took female captives as sex slaves and many more acts of terror. The Quran admits Jesus was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, made the blind see, the deaf hear, raised the dead and many other miracles. The only thing it disagrees with is that Jesus rose from the dead, even though there were hundreds of witnesses and Muhammad who did not see it but thinks he knows what happened. He thinks Jesus lied and faked it but then if Jesus lied, that means he did not live a sinless life because lying is a sin. Which is it? Did he live a sinless life or did he lie? You can’t have it both ways. One part of the Quran says that it can not be changed but then another part says it can with abrogation. Why would the REAL God need to change his mind? Quran 20:92-95 claims that Moses confronted Aaron and a Samaritan but this happened in 1446BC and the first Samaritan came in 725 BC when Moses was alive, it was before the existence of Samaritans, how do you explain that?
    Why does the Quran say he created the world instantly and another verse says he created it in 2 days and still another verse says he created it in 6 days. Doesn’t Allah/Muhammad how long it took to create the world?
    Why does the Quran say one of Allah’s days is like 50,000 of our years and anothr says it is like 1,000 of our years? The Quran itself says it was given all at once and then another verse says it was given “over a prolonged period of time.” Why does one sura say that wine is from Satan and then describes Heaven as flowing with wine. Why does it say that Allah grades prophets differently (he made Jesus Above other prophets, yet they kill Jesus followers and on his deathbed, Muhammad cursed Jesus) but then says he does not distinguish between them? Why did Muhamad perform no miracles that had witnesses, if he was so great?Ot is very easy to know that Muhammad is in Hell right now and that he does not deserve to be followed unless you believe killing and sex with children and killing children is all OK. Only the Devil would believe that gang rapes is good and terrorism is good. I challenge you to read the Bible. Why are you, as a Muslim not allowed to ask these questions without being punished? What are they afraid of? You knowing the truth?

    • bash says:

      Really? wives…God…the Creator. you have this mixed up with som greco roman mythology. please if you choose to misinform the people…at least quote the context and the quranic scripture to which you refer. This is a quicky reply.

  16. Pat says:

    Bashir, By the way, You are right, the Quran calls Jesus the MESSIAH, which means SON OF GOD, even though Muslims deny it. How can Muslims tell us the meaning of OUR WORD? That is like us saying a Mosque is not really a place of worship for Muslims. A mosque means GROCERY STORE. How ridiculous would that be? You are on the wrong team my friend and if you were smart, you would do some research and read the Bible. And other research. Which is worse, to get beheaded for doing some research and questioning the quran and going to Heaven or not questioning things, not getting beheaded but spending eternity in HELL. Eternity is a verrry long time. Your pain would never end. Do some research on a search engine for “Near death experiences Muslims” and see where they went. They all went to hell, were given a second chance and became Christians.

    • Bash says:

      Wrong…please, please do your homework. Messiah does not mean son of god. Wow!!! That…is sooo incorrect. Our creator refers to Isa as his “ruh”, his spirit as it is the creator’s spirit that was placed in him…but that does not make jesus god…it did not make adam god and god breathe life into him…without a woman. “Your word” wasn’t yours initially. The first christians (called messahi) were jews and they were a sect, amoungst many within the jewish community. Those first christians did not accept Paul’s interpretation of Jesus’ message. Jesus himself never worshiped himself (gethesame look it up). For three hundred years there were different “interpretation” of the divinity. Look it up. It was the pagan west that accepted the panthiestic greco-roman, image ladden dogma of the trinity. The others…they were monotheistic. The discussions we are having happened already in Turkey where Christianity came to power…and were those same people ultimately rejected it by accepting Islam. Then…as far as you westerners knew…all you had was the roman catholics. The greek orthodox didn’t agree with the Catholics, and the protestants said the catholics were wrong. This went on for what…1200 years? And now…you guys think those guys got it right. If you really think about it…you gotta laugh…it is a comedy of errors. My being muslim has nothing to do with the history of your own faith. I…as someone of non european origin has seem the truth of “your” Christianity…the two faced reality of it. The secular says peace and unity…the the spirit says separation and power. Understand this…if you can…the near east (northern africa) and the middle east is the cradle of civilization. These places were “civilization”…then came those greeks, then the Romans. They had been an invading force in these lands since atleast 300BC. They oppressed them all…invaders…colonizers. the jews wanted a champion…a savior to free them of these pagans…egyptians, greeks and romans…and so did the people. Jesus…was not the person. The Romans became the wolves in sheeps clothing when they became the holy roman empire. For three hundred years they were the oppressors trying to gain more power and trying to maintain power. Then came Islam. It did…what the jews thought jesus was going to do…get rid of the Romans. Islam did that…while not forcing christians to change faith…that’s why the OLDEST christians church is still active in these muslim countries. Western churches…are not even the original churches. The original churches are those of Abyssinia, the Coptic…and one other that i forgot. Just to let you know…those wahhabbi saudi arabians…the prophet muhammad spoke about them…negatively. but…that is them…not the 95% of muslims who reject what these power hungry racist arabs preach. But keep this in mind…they are in bed with christian and jewish sickos…the christian right and the zionist. All of them are sick racist…everything islam is against. Look up the prophet Muhammad’s last sermon. You will see how revelate the words are. As a muslim…a convert…a montheistic christian (i was taught by jehovah witnesses and the Unitarian church of christ) there is no more segrgated time in this country than on Sunday…church day. But…i went to friday prayer at a masjid…blue eyed blonde to the bluist black all together worshipping the one unseen creator. No matter what dogma whatever church you go to preaches…the reality of what shows in those churches is what’s in their hearts. What is it you christians like to claim about telling a thing by its actions… well…lets see. Know what…you are an american…you know the lies, the hate, the dropping nuclear bombs on non combatants. Overthrowning governments. False flags like vietnam. The invasion of panama to keep it for ourself. The need to stay in the middle east. This racially charged…regardless of belief…atmosphere. Anti-christ…by the look of it…it is the pot calling the kettle black…

  17. Bashir Gaalib says:

    Quraan=word of the father, the one, the creator. Hadith=words of the prophet Muhammad. In islam there is that clear distinction. Hadith further explains what was revealed. Therefore, if you quote something from the quraan, you have to find the subsequent hadith. The quraan was not compiled chronologically, so one verse may be independent of the previous or following verse. So, when speaking of “the king of kings”, here is the explanation as this is a prophecy…of what will happen…

    “It was narrated by Ahmed in his Musnad, from Al-Nu’man b. Bashir, who said:

    “We were sitting in the mosque of the Messenger of Allah (saw), and Bashir was a man who did not speak much, so Abu Tha’labah Al-Khashnee came and said: ‘Oh, Bashir bin Sa’ad, have you memorised the words of the Messenger of Allah (saw) regarding the rulers?’ Huthayfah replied, ‘I have memorised his words’. So Abu Tha’labah sat down and Huthayfah said, ‘The Messenger of Allah (saw) said ‘Prophethood will be amongst you whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a Khilafah on the way of the Prophet, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if Allah wished to lift it up. Then there will be an inheritance rule, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a coercive rule, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a Khilafah on the way of Prophethood.’ Then he was silent.”… is being fulfilled…we are currently in the age of the “coersive” rule…the rule of kings. As stated Jesus will return. One day the christian west will understand the first commandment that there is only one diety and not three in one. Recognize that Jesus is his own self…he is “that he is”…a man…as the “father” “is that he is”…the One diety in all that exists and everything is a subsequent creation.

  18. Pat says:

    Bashir What you are saying makes no sense. That Hadith has nothing to do with what I said. It has nothing to do with my questions any of them. As usual Muslims twist things to make them fit what they try to say. Read the book “understanding muhammad” by Ali Sina a former Muslim and he explains very well how God can be 3 in 1. Why does the Bible description of Satan match up exactly with the Quran description of Allah when Muhammad said for his followers to listen to the book but then later if he said it was corrupted, when? Not during the time of his life. Muhammad never said he was a prophet. He said he was a terrorist. Why would you want to follow someone who did all the horrible things he did, such as beheadings and murder, rape, gang rapes, child rape and much more? Read the Bible, if you have the guts and your answers will be given to you. God is LOVE! Not the hatred of Muhammad and Allah. Why can’t you answer my questions such as why Muslims can not defeat Israel. And why there are so many discrepancies in the Quran. And why Allah could not count to 100. You can make up excuses and reasoning but instead of doing that why don’t you just accept the fact you are being misled by Satan, the same as Muhammad admitted he was?

    • bash says:

      Quicky reply…you say Islam is something new…we say it is all the same throughout time. the reason for the “similarities” is because we are not talking about different beings. “I Am that I am” is the description god gave to Moses…being the god with no name. If god was Jesus…in the beginning…he would have to Moses…”hey, my name is Jesus…not “I am that I am”. saying I am that I am is describing the total uniqueness of the eternal…the un-created…the Creator of all that exist. Just for the record…Adam was a much more difficult creation than Jesus (pbuh).

      • Bash,

        Your logic assumes that God is not a Triune God. If God were not three in one, then yes, He would have said His name was Jesus (He saves) from the beginning. But since God is Triune, He has different persons. God the Father carries the name “I AM who I AM”, while God the Son is named Jesus (He saves).

        Since you start with the wrong assumption, you draw the wrong conclusion. If you instead start with the correct assumption that God is three in one and one in three, then you see your argument proves the reverse of what you intend to prove.

        • Bash says:

          Triune…was NOT the First Commandment…period! If you can’t comprehend that…you well regarded as one of the unclean in the parable yeshua gave of the king, his son and the wedding.

          • Bash,

            You are making a simple logic error. God says to worship Him and nothing else. We agree on that. But what does that mean? If God is God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, then by definition, the first commandment requires that we worship God in His correct and revealed form.

            Your equating the first commandment with tawhid has no foundation.

  19. bash says:

    Matthew 22:2-14
    “The kingdom of Heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
    “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet!’
    “But they paid no attention and went off — one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
    “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
    “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ The man was speechless.
    “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

    • Bash says:

      Btw…this is further proof that there is no trinity. There is the king…and then there is the son. As you can see…the king has all say…the son is silent.

      • Really? How do you know that the King is not a three in one God? Where does this scripture passage say that?

        • bash says:

          It is evident in two occurances…if not more if you include that historically the monotheism of Abraham/judiasm did not accept pantheistic, greco-roman mythos, or the “godhead” beliefs of the Hindus and Egyptians (yes, their pagan beliefs had the same “godhead” that included the “mother/child/god” mythos), But. in regards to the direct charge against trinitarian concept is this…it was MADE UP in 325AD without Jesus’ opinion during the Nicean Council. There were calls against this ideology from the beginning…that’s why they needed that “council” to determine who or what “god” is, has been or will be. This conversation never existed in the 5000 years before the pagans decided to grab hold of this misunderstood sect of Judaism (the messahi). For 600 years, before islam, they questioned this concept. I would quote John 14:26, but they keep on changing the translation. Before it was translated as the “holy Spirit”, but they realized that was the wrong translation. So, they changed it to read “the Comforter” or “Advocate”, which was the right translations, but THEN they decided to add back in “…who is the Holy Spirit”. Personally, this is why i stopped dealing with the bible. I had been reading the bible since I was 10 years old and have gotten fed up with their constant “tampering” with the so-called “word of god”. the bible now is the word of men. Do your homework…everything isn”t what you see.

          • bash says:

            Just for the record…my monotheism existed before I knew anything about Islam. I was raised amoungst Jews and Christians who separated the man Jesus from the Creator. regardless of my acceptance of Islam…historically, the reality of the conflict of ideology in christianity did exist and you can’t blame Islam for that…period. Do your homework.

          • Heresy has always existed and it always will. In that sense, you are correct that Islam is not new.

    • Bash,

      Regarding your link, I actually wrote an entire article regarding the 2nd point on that list. You can find it here.

      http://unravelingislam.com/prophetic-names/

      I’m not sure what you are trying to do other than provide more avenues to show the bankruptcy of Islam.

      • bash says:

        just a quicky…i glanced over your post. arabic….is NOT a language you can simply translate. I have some texts that were written by islamic saints over a thousand years ago. I asked native speakers of arabic, who are also doctors and english proficient, to translate these text for me. they say no. I asked why. they said that the language has different depths which just cant be translated one word to one word. I had read some of my teachers writing in english, he had to use hyphenated words to translate/describe words that are arabic. to get an idea as to the complexity of the language…try to find some arabic and have google translate it for you. I bet it will make no sense. also along those lines…hebrew and other semitic languages fall along the same lines as they too are phonetically similar (three constant root words)

  20. Bash says:

    To those Trinitarians…this concept is a metaphysical concept. We are jave this capacity to be one…with the One. That spirit that was introduced into this creation called humanity is capable of transcending our physical limitations. That is done when you do as yeshua had done “fulfill the law”. Yeshua fulfilled the Laws sent by his father…not merely put outward appearances, but internalized them. The first Law that was internalized was…the First Commandment.

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