The King of Kings

This blog focuses on the differences between Christianity and Islam. Of course, when talking to Muslims, it is often best to discuss similarities of the two religions in order to build a bridge of communication. However, at some point, the truth starts standing out and can no longer be suppressed. Yet these issues need to be handled with reverence and respect (1 Peter 3:15). Sometimes these distinctives are not caused by an issue of doctrine. Instead, they occur because characters on the two opposing sides of the grand eternal spiritual struggle are referenced identically. The hero is called the villain and the villain is called the hero. To see this in action, consider the one who is entitled “The King of kings”.

In the abstract, the title “King of kings” refers to an absolute ruler. It indicates complete and utter sovereignty, such as the kind that God alone possesses. Thus, in the New Testament the title “King of kings” is given to the only one worthy of it, God. Sometimes the title refers to God the Father, such as this reference from 1 Timothy 6:14-16.

14 that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which He will bring about at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

Other times the title “King of kings” refers to God the Son. These references appear in the book of Revelation, where Jesus is fully revealed as the King of kings (Revelation 17:14). This title of King of kings is so important, it will even be inscribed on His garments when he returns to earth (Revelation 19:16).

At this time when the true King of kings is being more fully revealed, massive events are underway. A great battle will occur and the unholy trinity of Satan, the beast, and the false prophet will be dealt with. The beast and false prophet will be thrown alive into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20). Satan will also be thrown into the lake of fire after being bound for a 1,000 years (Revelation 20:2, Revelation 20:10). As the enemy of God, Satan is constantly trying to undermine God’s purposes. Yet his doom is guaranteed when the King of kings, the Almighty Sovereign, hands Satan his ultimate defeat. From Satan’s point of view, this Sovereignty of God must be the most terrifying aspect of God.

So what does any of this have to do with Islam? As it happens, in Islam the King of kings is a name that carries a much different connotation. While the term never appears in the Qur’an itself, it does appear in the Hadith, the traditions of Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted and reliable Hadith collection within Islam, we learn something about Allah. Here is what Muhammad says about Allah and the name “king of kings”.

Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).” [i]

Within Islam, the most odious and fearful name from Allah’s point of view is the one calling himself the King of kings. It’s also written within the Islamic literature that Allah’s wrath will be targeted at the one calling himself the King of kings. From another well respected Hadith collection, Sahih Muslim,

Abu Huraira reported from Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) so many ahadith and one of them was this that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The most wretched person in the sight of Allah on the Day of Resurrection and the worst person and target of His wrath would of the person who is called Malik al-Amlak (the King of Kings) for there is no king but Allah. [ii]

Let’s recap. From the Christian point of view, Satan is the enemy of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is God who alone who holds the title “King of kings.” In the end times Satan will target his wrath at the King of kings, who is God. Yet Satan is in terror at this name because by it his plans to battle God will be thwarted. Conversely, from the Islamic point of view, it is Allah who despises this name “King of kings” and it is toward the one calling himself this title that Allah will pour out his wrath.

So exactly who is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings?” Is it Allah or Satan?



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93 Responses to The King of Kings

  1. How is ignorance bliss? Why do people choose to be uninformed?

  2. Bahi says:

    Revelation 1:7-8 New King James Version (NKJV)
    Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
    “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

  3. So you are saying that Muhammad was alarmed that ” MALIK-AL-AMLAK”
    “The King Of Kings” (Y/eshuah) ( Jesus )
    will be there to expose him as the False Prophet ?

    • I am saying that both Allah and Satan are in terror at the one who is “king of kings” and that both Allah and Satan will pour out their wrath on the one who refers to Himself in this way.

      • Edwin S Bedford says:

        G/Day Robert. Shalom ! I have had to move away from the English translations since my retirement, due to the errors, mainly in, translation. I am not going to compete with the incredible gift that Yahweh has bestowed upon you, it is wonderful to see what Elohim is doing with the youth in these last days.
        At the birth of our first son Nathan in 1972 we felt that the responsibility of raising a family was beyond our capabilities and so we had our children dedicated to Yahweh. I was very lucky that I wasn’t brought up in religious circles and it wasn’t till I was 19 that I started searching for ( God ) ( Not that he was lost ) Alcohol, drugs, tobacco took a long time to shake off, but you must never dwell on the past as Lucifer loves to use this. Keturah and Caleb came 10-12 years later ( Keturah was Abraham’s 2nd wife and Caleb was the 1st to enter the promised land. I picked the name “Keturah” from a Negro Spiritual singer in the States called “Ketty Lester” “Love Letters”.
        I am not a good speaker or writer, but Yahweh has laid the gift of Watchman upon me so I would like to reveal some controversial subjects to you if you would allow me the privilege. Not this time, as I wouldn’t like to waste your time in case you are to busy. One subject that is now able to be revealed
        is the subject of Torah. If you look into what the West calls the Old Testament, and read through the first roughly 550 pages you will find something very odd. Considering the Jewish people claim that they read and believe the Torah, it is surprising to not find the word Jew until we get to 2nd Kings Ch 16 v 6. If this is a shock to you please be at peace as this is a revelation and I would never lead you away from your faith in (Your Lord Jesus Christ) that is not his real name but that is for later. If you would read the first 550 pages and pray about this you will find that the word Jew should not be in the Bible, and that is what I mainly read from now,

        however I do confer with numerous scriptures to verify. Have a look at this Bible as there is quite a bit of info on why we should read from it. I am going to leave it here and let you think about what I have said, if you know what I am revealing please let me know. It has taken many years to have this revealed to me and lots of anger, and this revelation would not have happened if our father who fought in ww2 had not passed away. I will explain more if I get a reply from you. Yahweh my Elohim bless you and keep you in these troubled times, regards Stuart Bedford.

        • Ed,

          By all means share what is on your mind. I am not quite sure where you are going. I know the word “Jew” does not appear until much later, as the Israelites are called Hebrews earlier on. I am failing to see any possible implications of this fact.

      • Cynclaire Woods says:

        Your understanding of Islam is lacking.
        We do not deny the greatness of Yeshua (a.s.)(me personally my love of him moves me to tears), we simply believe that it’s presentation has been twisted and distorted through the ages. It’s a fact that the Bible and Christian doctrines taught from it came at a disturbing amount of bloodshed from the hands of those that claimed to be followers of the Messiah. I was led to Islam mainly because I found that the book I held in my hands was questionable as the ORIGINAL word of God.
        It couldn’t be fully trusted to deliver the unadulterated truth and therefore the teachings built upon it couldn’t be trusted either. I never lost my faith that there was an Almighty God (my life was and has continued to be filled with undeniable signs of His merciful existence) just that what has been said about God(s.w.t.) to and in turn Yeshua and all the others within the Bible could not be accurately gleaned from what we call the Bible. We do not deny that there is a King of Kings; this is God and God alone. Yeshua was absolutely a King. As Messiah he could be no less. But even he kneels before the Throne of God and submits to His will and rule. We don’t believe he personally ever thought nor refered to himself as The King Of Kings. It is our belief that some titles were never claimed by him and the ones that were have been sadly misunderstood. Even his own followers next to him did not fully understand all that he said and did. Man can barely fully understand his own self let alone his brother and even more so one connected to God like Yeshua was. Truth told how can we 2000 years claim to have absolute certainty about what he said and did? Even I myself am not arrogant enough to mistake my beliefs for fact. This doesn’t discourage me though. I (and all Muslims) believe in the return of the Messiah and it is on that day and the day of resurrection that all will come to know the Truth with certainty. I feel like I digressed… Anyways it’s not that we don’t believe there is a King of Kings we simply believe that it’s God and that those that came way after Yeshua gave him that title and that Yeshua never set himself up with that title nor as his equal. Just because God is within me and I am within God does not make me God. Metaphors…metaphors…the spiritual have always spoken in metaphors because the things of the Spirit are beyond words. Even your version of the Yeshua’s life presented him as one that constantly spoke in metaphors and parables. Yeshua, in my humble opinion, has always appeared as a Mystic whether I was Christian or Muslim. In a sense I never stopped being a follower of Christ and it is what I had as his teachings that led me to Islam and the teachings presented by Muhammad (s.a.s.). How can I be equal to one I pray to for deliverance? How could Yeshua? Yeshua did command. But he himself followed commands from the Most High. God prays to no one. He beseaches none to rescue Him if it be their will. He ask none to pass His cup. It makes no SENSE to say that Yeshua is King Of Kings nor that he claimed it. I’m not a scholar just a common man with common sensibilities. True God and his ways are BEYOND our understanding however this doesn’t mean He is irrational nor does He expect us to believe in irrationalities. Stay blessed. And hopefully I’ve given a clearer insight into our world. Peace Be Upon You All.

        • Cathe says:

          The only way to follow Jesus Christ is to have a personal relationship with Him. He died for us! The message of the cross is the greatest message on earth. He loves us, not only as our God, but as our brother, our best friend, our Savior!! Muhammad was a pedophile; he disrespected women (that’s putting it mildly) because his god teaches women are inferior and are not deserving of life. They are flawed in a way that can’t be helped. When my God created mankind, He saw that it was good. But when the Islamist god created mankind, he saw that women were not good. My God loves me as he loves my husband. There is no difference to Him. I know I will be with Him forever for He promises that in His Word. There will be no virgins in heaven for me or anyone else to have sex with through all eternity. That is not biblical, nor is it sensible.

          • Bash says:

            Just a quickie. Assuming you are a Trinitarian (i.e., father, son and holy ghost/spirit equals one god…because if you’re not you would be considered a heretic)…your ideology is irrational. That rationale being that Jesus, God, had died for us. Rationally, is if he is immortal how can have died for us? Another rational thing, if no one believed in God before Jesus, what makes you think they would believe after him? Maybe one day you Christians will actually read the Bible from the beginning to the end instead of from the end to the beginning.

          • Cathe says:

            Jesus was both 100% man and also 100% God. Remember, the Bible was written for believers. Others will never understand.

          • Cynclaire Woods says:

            Abraham had a DIRECT relationship with God. So did Adam, Noah, Moses, Samuel, David, Ezekiel, Elijah, etc. etc. It’s not until we get to the new testament that you find the idea that we needed an intermediary. In the Sahih Translation of the Noble Quran chapter 56 verse 16 says: “And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein”
            We have a deep and personal relationship with God that needs no intermediary. In my own experience He has guided me and spoken to me in a way that I could NEVER deny His existence power and grace.
            As for women. I will be the first to say that there are those who claim to be Muslim that horribly oppress religion with the supposed justification found within Qur’an and Hadith. If you actually STUDY the history of Islam and not take some Islamaphobs rhetoric. You will find that women are COMMANDED to be regard as equal to men. It is within Islam that women had the right to property, divorce, and having a voice within the community the likes that their contemporaries within Christian realms did not enjoy. Consider this: many of the traditions (sunnah) and sayings (Hadith) of Muhammad considered legitimate are based on the word of women. In the realm of mystical spirituality I would say the one held highest above high out of all the teachers was Rabi’a a WOMAN. As in Christianity people within Islam have used the religion for nefarious means that upon investigation have no actual bases within scripture. Mary is mentioned more in the Qur’an than in the Bible. The Qur’an says the only measure of ANYONES (male, female, black, white, etc.) superiority is their piety. And only GOD can make that judgement. Consider this too. Within the Qur’an, it is only Adam that is mentioned in relation to the fall of man. It is solely upon Adam that the responsibility of this fall is placed. Within the Bible and Christian tradition it is Eve that bears the brunt of the blame and it is through this false teaching that for the longest time women have been regarded as lesser at best and outright an enemy onto man at worst. Ask yourself why is it that in countries with a predominantly Islamic culture that you have more than a few actual heads-of-state where in Christian American we have NEVER had one. Why is it within these same countries there are more female representatives than in Western countries especially America (51% of the population is female yet this MAJORITY has a minority representation at about 21%. Mademoiselle I did the math myself and was heated.)…do your research.
            As to Muhammad: people have always slandered the righteous.
            Jesus was called a servant of Satan by the his detractors. I’m not even going to waste my time entraining the lies perpetuated throughout the ages.
            Sister I’m glad you have faith. I don’t agree to a lot of your perspectives and I’m dismayed at the misconceptions you carry but o want you to know that as God and Jesus loves you I love you and I wish nothing else that you continue to experience the blessings God has laid out for you.
            Peace be upon you Mademoiselle.

          • bash,

            You claim that God being able to die is irrational. To a casual observer, that would seem to be correct. However, as all-God all-man, God could die in human form.

            Does not the Qur’an claim that dying is the utmost manner in which we can show love? If so, than how is that your religion claims that I could love more than God? Since I could die and Allah cannot, I can love more than Allah. Explain the rationality of that to me.

            As you would say, do your research.

          • Bash says:

            God…a shape shifter…lol. Did you know “god” did not name himself in the Torah? The use of the word “god” is actually incorrect…the ACTUAL translation is “I am as I am”. On that note…the Creator is as he was, is as he is and will be as he was in the beginning…Eternal…indescribable, incomparably, immutable. How can you compare anything that has been created to that which existed before ALL creation? (Reflect on the first commandment)

            Mistake Robert. No, dying is not the utmost manner we show love, prayer is the utmost manner in which we show love of the Creator. (check jewish prayer times…the same prayer times rabbi Jesus followed) therefore, the rest of your argument is moot.
            For us who worshipped the Father and believed in the Father before there was a “son” (aka, greek demigod), there was no need to create something else to deitify…if that was the case…he could had created the golden calf 🙂

          • bash,

            I am glad to see that you don’t believe the Qur’an. It specifically grants paradise for those who die in Allah’s cause, a reward given for no other action.

            [3.157] And if you are slain in the way of Allah or you die, certainly forgiveness from Allah and mercy is better than what they amass.
            [3.158] And if indeed you die or you are slain, certainly to Allah shall you be gathered together.

            You have two choices, believe the Qur’an that death is a sure ticket to paradise, thus showing that death is the ultimate act of love, thus proving that Allah cannot love as much as we can, thus showing we can do something Allah cannot, thus disproving Islam. Your other option is that God can love better than we are able, thus God must be able to die, thus God sent His Son, who is God Himself, to die for us.

            Your choice.

          • Bash says:

            Robert, you are like a person who has a drivers license…but doesn’t know how a car works. Nevertheless, as usual, you guys can take one sentence and misapply/take out of context. To further explain martyrdom…i give you this:

            In his book Ad-Daa’ Wad-Dawaa’, Ibn Al-Qayyim explains the hadith of the first three to be thrown into Hell on the Day of Resurrection. He says:
            “from Abu Hurayrah, who said, “I heard the Messenger of Allah say, ‘ Verily, the first to be judged on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who had died as a martyr. He will be brought forward. Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. Then He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I fought for Your Cause till I was martyred.’ Allah will say: `You have lied. You fought so that people might call you courageous; and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell. Next a man who had acquired and imparted knowledge and read the Qur’an will be brought forward, Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. Then He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I acquired knowledge and taught it, and read the Qur’an for Your sake.’ Allah will say to him: `You have lied. You acquired knowledge so that people might call you a learned (man), and you read the Qur’an so that they might call you a reciter, and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him, and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell. Next a man whom Allah had made affluent and to whom Allah had given plenty of wealth, will be brought forward, Allah will remind him of the favours He had bestowed upon him and the man will acknowledge them. He will ask him: `What did you do to express gratitude for it?’ The man will reply: `I did not neglect any of the ways You liked wealth to be spend liberally for Your sake’. Allah will say to him: `You have lied. You did it so that people might call you generous, and they have done so.’ Command will then be issued about him and he will be dragged on his face and thrown into Hell.”

            And the wording, “So these are the first of Allaah’s creation the Fire will be kindled with on the Day of Resurrection“

            More to follow.

          • Bash says:

            This is the basis of Islam. Martyrdom IS NOT one of the “pillars” of Islam

            Umar ibn al-Khattab reported: We were sitting with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, one day when a man appeared with very white clothes and very black hair. There were no signs of travel on him and we did not recognize him. He sat down in front of the Prophet and rested his knees by his knees and placed his hands on his thighs. The man said, “O Muhammad, tell me about Islam.” The Prophet said, “Islam is to testify there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to establish prayer, to give charity, to fast the month of Ramadan, and to perform pilgrimage to the House if possible.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully.” We were surprised that he asked him and then said he was truthful. He said, “Tell me about faith.” The Prophet said, “Faith is to believe in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in providence, both its good and its evil.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully. So tell me about excellence.” The Prophet said, “Excellence is to worship Allah as if you see Him, for you do not see Him but He certainly sees you.” The man said, “Tell me about the final hour.” The Prophet said, “The one asked does not know more than the one asking.” The man said, “Tell me about its signs.” The Prophet said, “The servant girl will give birth to her mistress and you will see barefoot, naked, and destitute shepherds compete in constructing tall buildings.” Then the man returned and I remained. The Prophet said to me, “O Umar, do you know who he was?” I said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.” The Prophet said, “Verily, he was Gabriel who came to teach you your religion.”

            Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 8

          • Bash says:

            To understand the martyrdom in islam…you must go to the Torah first. These places, Kedar, Dedan, Edom, Temah, Median are ALL in Arabia…the home of Abraham’s first born Ismael. The Prophet m Muhammad fulfilled the second part of the prophecy of the “two riders” (the first rider, Jesus in Jerusalem on an ass, the second, Muhammad arriving in Medinah on a camel). The history is when the Prophet Muhammad’s message was spreading, the arab tribal pagans tried to kill him, hence he fled to Medinah from Mecca. As a matter of self-presevation because the pagans were oppressing the muslims, a war ensued. This fulfilled this bible prophecy:

            Isaiah 41
            1The burden of the desert of the sea. As whirlwinds in the south pass through, so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land.

            2A grievous vision is declared unto me: the treacherous dealeth treacherously, and the spoiler spoileth. Go up, Elam! besiege, Media! All the sighing thereof have I made to cease.

            3Therefore are my loins filled with pain; anguish hath taken hold upon me, as the anguish of a woman in travail: I am bowed down so as not to hear, I am dismayed so as not to see.

            4My heart panteth, horror affrighteth me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into trembling unto me.

            5Prepare the table, appoint the watch; eat, drink: arise, ye princes, anoint the shield.

            6For thus hath the Lord said unto me: Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.

            7And he saw chariots, horsemen by pairs, a chariot with asses, a chariot with camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed.

            8And he cried [as] a lion, Lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights.

            9 — And behold, there cometh a chariot of men; horsemen by pairs. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.

            10O my threshing, and the corn of my floor! What I have heard of Jehovah of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you.

            A Prophecy against Edom

            11The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night? Watchman, what of the night?

            12The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will inquire, inquire; return, come.

            A Prophecy against Arabia

            13The burden against Arabia. In the forest of Arabia shall ye lodge, [ye] caravans of Dedanites.

            14Bring ye water to meet the thirsty! The inhabitants of the land of Tema come forth with their bread for him that fleeth.

            15For they flee from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

            16For thus hath the Lord said unto me: Within a year, according to the years of a hired servant, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail; 17and the residue of the number of the archers, the mighty men of the sons of Kedar, shall be diminished: for Jehovah, the God of Israel, hath spoken.

          • Bash says:

            Jesus is NOT god:

            John 7

            “16 Jesus therefore answered them and said, “My doctrine is not mine, but [that] of him that has sent me. 17 If any one desire to practise HIS will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is of God, or [that] I speak from myself.” (See, Jesus states god…is not himself)

          • bash,

            If I were wrong, you wouldn’t need multiple messages to prove it, one would suffice.

            Nevertheless, as for your Hadith, I can quote you various Hadith espousing dying in jihad as the ultimate act of sacrifice. Are you not aware of these?

            Also, you speak of context. That’s good. Here is the summary of John 7. 37 Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” 39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

            Hmm. What is Jesus saying here?

          • Bash says:

            Nevertheless, as for your Hadith, I can quote you various Hadith espousing dying in jihad as the ultimate act of sacrifice. Are you not aware of these?
            I’m sure you can quote various hadith about martyrdom…you will find what you are looking for…that’s what’s in your heart. You choose to disregard even the prophecy in the bible i provided…but it is not as if this is unexpected. Muslims have been arguing with christians for a millennium…and we keep win the argument…that’s why yall are scared and hateful. But…will you search the power of prayer, mercy and empathy? I think not. But…it’s ok :-). I have plenty of christian friends who see me as a muslim…and still are friends.

            Also, you speak of context. That’s good. Here is the summary of John 7. 37 Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” 39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

            Hmm. What is Jesus saying here?

            Maybe…he is alluding to this:

            Jesus’ Warning

            (Acts 23:12-22)

            1These things I have spoken unto you that ye may not be offended. 2They shall put you out of the synagogues; but the hour is coming that every one who kills you will think to render service to God; 3and these things they will do because they have not known the Father nor me. 4But I have spoken these things to you, that when their hour shall have come, ye may remember them, that I have said [them] unto you. But I did not say these things unto you from [the] beginning, because I was with you.

            The Holy Spirit Promised

            (Joel 2:28-32; John 14:15-26; Acts 2:1-13; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 19:1-7)

            5But now I go to him that has sent me, and none of you demands of me, Where goest thou? 6But because I have spoken these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7But I say the truth to you, It is profitable for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go I will send him to you. 8And having come, he will bring demonstration to the world, of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9of sin, because they do not believe on me; 10of righteousness, because I go away to [my] Father, and ye behold me no longer; 11of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

            12I have yet many things to say to you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13But when *he* is come, the Spirit of truth, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but whatsoever he shall hear he shall speak; and he will announce to you what is coming. 14He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine and shall announce [it] to you. 15All things that the Father has are mine; on account of this I have said that he receives of mine and shall announce [it] to you.

            I have no problem with this Robert…why should I? Every era has its prophet’s whom the people of their time were to follow. In Islam we know one of the questions asked of the people in the grave will be…who is YOUR prophet. In islam, there will be christians and jews in paradise because they did as did their respective prophets told them to do…worship the One god, the I am, that I am. In Islam, Isa (jesus) is referred to “allah’s ruh”, his spirit. Jesus was given prophecy at birth and yes…Jesus is the messiah, but he will come back to those who upheld “the law” as he did, not to those deemed “unclean” as in the parable of the king’s son wedding. Paul (that false prophet) rejected the Mosaic law. Paul made claims on Jesus that Jesus himself did not pronounce.

            In all failed to acknowledge the prophecy from Isaiah…why? Is it because you recognize “the prophet from Galilee”, the one who arrive in Jerusalem on an ass…like the prophecy foretold? You DON’T believe in the bible…you believe in the dogma created by a misguided persecutor of messiahi (what christians were originally called) called Paul. Isn’t it odd that the new testament is more about what Paul said rather than what Jesus said?

          • bash,

            Thank you for agreeing that their are Hadith regarding the superior status of martyrdom. My wishes have nothing to do with their existence. So the question stands. Since I could die, how is that I can love better than Allah? Or do you prefer to keep ignoring the question by generated a dozen new ones for me?

            Secondly, thank you for quoting passages from Acts, which was written after Jesus was resurrected. Acknowledging Scripture written AFTER the resurrection disproves Islam. I’m not sure what you attempting to do here other than undermine your own religion. By all means, let’s keep talking about what happened after Jesus rose from the dead.

            Thirdly, your quote is from Isaiah 21, not 41. This is an obscure prophecy to say the least, but by all means, if you want to discuss Isaiah 21 feel free.

            And what conversation would be complete without you bringing up Paul. This was the man who spoke to the resurrected Jesus and recognized Him as Lord, the man whose message was corroborated by other disciples, the man whom the Spirit explicitly chose to spread Jesus’ message, and the man whose writings never disagreed with anything Jesus said. What about Paul?

  4. Quiet Rider says:

    When asked who exactly is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings,” Allah or Satan? There is no question in my mind; they are both one and the same.

    • Pat says:

      thank You. that is absolutely accurate. The description of Satan in the Bible matches the description of Allah in the Quran.

      • Bash says:

        Description? Spoken like a true pagan. You CAN NOT “describe” god. Nevertheless…here are the attributes of the Creator per the Quran (please note that in islam we know that there are atleast 300 more attributes of the creator in the torah, psalms and the gospel)

        Ar Rahman الرحمن The Most Gracious
        2 Ar Raheem الرحيم The Most Merciful
        3 Al Malik الملك The King
        4 Al Quddus القدوس The Most Holy
        5 As Salam السلام The Ultimate Provider of Peace
        6 Al Mu’min المؤمن The Guardian of Faith
        7 Al Muhaymin المهيمن The Guardian, the Preserver
        8 Al Aziz العزيز The Almighty, the Self Sufficient
        9 Al Jabbaar الجبار The Compeller
        10 Al Mutakabbir الْمُتَكَبِّرُ The Dominant one
        11 Al Khaaliq الخالق The Creator
        12 Al Baari البارئ The Maker
        13 Al Musawwir المصور The Fashioner of Forms
        14 Al Ghaffaar الغفار The Ever-Forgiving
        15 Al Qahhaar القهار The All Subduer
        16 Al Wahhaab الوهاب The Bestower
        17 Ar Razzaaq الرزاق The Ever-Providing, The Sustainer
        18 Al Fattaah الفتاح The Ultimate Judge, The Opener of All Portals, the Victory Giver
        19 Al Alim العليم The All-Knowing, the Omniscient
        20 Al Qaabidh القابض The Restrainer, the Straightener
        21 Al Baasit الباسط The Expander, the Munificent
        22 Al Khaafidh الخافض The Abaser, The Demeanor
        23 Ar Raafi’ الرافع The Exalter
        24 Al Mu’izz المعز The Giver of Honour
        25 Al Muzil المذل The Giver of Dishonor
        26 As Sami’ السميع The All-Hearing
        27 Al Basir البصير The All-Seeing
        28 Al Hakam الحكم The Judge, the Ultimate Arbiter
        29 Al ‘Adl العدل The Utterly Just
        30 Al Latif اللطيف The Kind
        31 Al Khabir الخبير The All-Aware
        32 Al Halim الحليم The Forbearer, The Indulgent
        33 Al-‘Adheem العظيم The Magnificent, the Infinite
        34 Al Ghafur الغفور The All-Forgiving
        35 Ash Shakur الشكور The Grateful
        36 Al Ali العلي The Sublimely Exalted
        37 Al Kabir الكبير The Great
        38 Al Hafidh الحفيظ The Preserver, The Protector
        39 Al Muqit المقيت The Nourisher
        40 Al Hasib الحسيب The Reckoner
        41 Al Jalil الجليل The Majestic
        42 Al Karim الكريم The Bountiful, the Generous
        43 Ar Raqib الرقيب The Watchful
        44 Al Mujib المجيب The Responsive, the Answerer
        45 Al Wasi’ الواسع The Vast, the All Encompassing
        46 Al Hakim الحكيم The Wise
        47 Al Wadud الودود The Loving, the Kind One
        48 Al Majid المجيد The All Glorious
        49 Al Ba’ith الباعث The Raiser of the Dead
        50 Ash Shaheed الشهيد The Witness
        51 Al Haqq الحق The Truth, the Real
        52 Al Wakil الوكيل The Trustee, the Dependable
        53 Al Qawiyy القوي The Strong
        54 Al Mateen المتين The Firm, the Steadfast
        55 Al Wali الولي The Protecting Friend, Patron, and Supporter
        56 Al Hamidu الحميد The All Praise Worthy
        57 Al Muhsi المحصي The Accounter, The Numberer of All
        58 Al Mubdi المبدئ The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
        59 Al Mu’id المعيد The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
        60 Al Muhyi المحيي The Giver of Life
        61 Al Mumit المميت The Bringer of Death, the Destroyer
        62 Al Hayy الحي The Ever Living
        63 Al Qayyum القيوم The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
        64 Al Waajid الواجد The Perceiver, the Finder, the Unfailing
        65 Al Maajid الماجد The Illustrious, the Magnificent
        66 Al Waahid الواحد The One, the All Inclusive, the Indivisible
        67 Al Ahad الاحد The One, the Indivisible
        68 As Samad الصمد The Everlasting,The Eternal Refuge
        69 Al Qaadir القادر The All-Capable, The Most Able, The Most Powerful
        70 Al Muqtadir المقتدر The All Determiner, the Dominant
        71 Al Muqaddim المقدم The Expediter, He who brings forward
        72 Al Mu’akhkhir المؤخر The Delayer, He who brings backwards
        73 Al Awwal الأول The First
        74 Al Aakhir الآخر The Last
        75 Az Dhaahir الظاهر The Manifest; the All Victorious
        76 Al Baatin الباطن The Hidden; the All Encompassing
        77 Al Waali الوالي The Patron
        78 Al Muta’ali المتعالي The Self Exalted
        79 Al Barr البر The Most Kind and Righteous
        80 At Tawwaab التواب The Ever-Pardoning, Ever Relenting
        81 Al Muntaqim المنتقم The Avenger
        82 Al ‘Afuww العفو The Pardoner, The Forgiver
        83 Ar Ra’uf الرؤوف The Clement, The Compassionate, The All-Pitying
        84 Malik Al Mulk مالك الملك The Owner of All Sovereignty
        85 Dhual Jalal wa Al Ikram ذو الجلال و الإكرام The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
        86 Al Muqsit المقسط The Equitable, the Requiter
        87 Al Jaami’ الجامع The Gatherer, the Unifier
        88 Al Ghani الغني The All Rich, the Independent
        89 Al Mughni المغني The Enricher, the Emancipator
        90 Al Mani’ المانع The Withholder, the Shielder, the Defender
        91 Ad Dharr الضآر The Distresser
        92 An Nafi’ النافع The Propitious, the Benefactor
        93 An Nur النور The Light
        94 Al Hadi الهادي The Guide
        95 Al Badi’i البديع Incomparable, the Originator
        96 Al Baaqi الباقي The Ever Enduring and Immutable
        97 Al Waarith الوارث The Heir, the Inheritor of All
        98 Ar Rashid الرشيد The Guide, Infallible Teacher, and Knower
        99 Al Saboor الصبور The Forbearing, The Patient

        …so…what description are you referring to?

        • Cynclaire Woods says:

          Bash let it go… On a side note. Ezekiel 18:18 of their own scriptures obliterates the doctrines of original sin and therefore Isa’s need to die for the Sims of man. It’s just one of the many ways that the truth to their being misled is found within their own scriptures. That verse led me to a lot of investigation of the Bible and then the eventual understanding that what I was told was the perfect word of God had been horribly adulterated. I wasn’t even looking for it. I was simply trying to read the Bible cover to cover and discovered the deception. I was heartbroken distraught and scared. Who could I trust? At that point I prayed for guidance and came upon Islam. It’s truth even in translation was apparent. In it’s original language it’s almost tangible. But I got there bc I was willing to be honest with myself and have an open mind. You cannot debate with them. I’ve even played devil’s advocate with the Quran; questioning and testing it and the more I tried the more it stood in strength. They’re to afraid to do such a thing with their own Book. And fear is one of the most blinding emotions we have.

          • Bash says:

            They are scared because they believe they have a moral authority that is being undermined by the reality of islam’s spread. They are scared because they see Islam as foreign…eventhough…it has the exact same roots of the bible. They are scared because people are leaving christianity in general and converting to islam in particular…especially since most of us were raised in this Christian society and actually have read the bible (from front to back and not the other way around). For those who see “god” as being “white” it is even more distressing because of their racism. They see all these “inferior” people of color not acquiescing to their facticious “dogma”. None of these people even know how their ideologies came to be. They don’t know about non-Trinitarian christians. They don’t know about the atrocities against them. They don’t know that they are suppose maintain the “jewish” traditions as did Jesus. They don’t know about the iconclast. These ignorant people don’t even kmow which “church” is the oldest. But…they do know dogma, hate, racism, intolerance, propaganda, nationalism. They say they love yet they will bomb the shit out of ya. It wasn’t muslims who detonated nuclear bombs. It wasn’t muslims who created “racism” through “scientific” means. It wasn’t muslims, unlike the christians, who forced people to become christians or be made slaves (check Pope edicts and the Inquisition). They had a 600 year head start…and islam is in their face…and they don’t like it.

          • Cynclare,

            In another thread, it was pointed out how critical context is. Here is the context of Ezekiel 18.

            1 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “What do you mean by using this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying,

            ‘The fathers eat the sour grapes,
            But the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

            3 As I live,” declares the Lord God, “you are surely not going to use this proverb in Israel anymore.

            The verse has nothing to do with original sin. I’d be curious to know where you got that idea.

        • Cathe says:

          He calls himself the great deceiver and claims no one lies more than he does. So how can you believe any of the ‘good’ attributes he claims to have? How can you believe anything he claims??

          • Bash says:

            Who claims they are the great deciever? Where does he say that? Where is he? Why are you talking in riddles? I assume you are well read…educated although you might be aTrump supporter (who has no problem being friends with those enemies if Islam…the wahhabi Saudi Arabians). So…quote your scriptures and the context in which it was given.

  5. Quiet Rider says:

    So exactly who is it that despises the one calling himself “King of kings?” Is it Allah or Satan? There’s no question about it! They are both one and the same.

  6. Justin says:

    Jesus wins in the end. Satan/Allah loses hands down. End of discussion.

    • armen says:

      Yeah right! JESUS/YESHUA IS THE KING OF kings

    • Bash says:

      Jesus doesn’t “win”, Muhammad doesn’t “win”, Moses doesn’t “win”, Abraham doesn’t “win”…servants, them all, are not here to “win”. They are here to guide to the Creator..the real winner.

  7. Danny says:

    Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords,people who don’t read the bible they don’t know,believe in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is coming back on a white horse and the Army in heaven follow him on a white horse he’s going to throw Allah and his false prophet,in to lake of fire

  8. Haris says:

    Which verse in the Quran does it say this?About the king of kings and allahs wrath against him?

    • Mark says:

      It’s in the Hadith

      • Cynclaire Woods says:

        Keep in mind to that the wrath isn’t proclaimed against Yeshua for he never called himself that. The Bible especially the new testament is a bunch of books selected by the hands of man not miraculously written by God. The followers of Christ have been horribly misled and deceived by unrighteous men bent on perpetuating and maintaining their own agendas. WAKE UP my brothers and sisters in faith. STUDY YOUR HISTORY! INVESTIGATE THE WHOLE OF THE BIBLE. YOUR FAITH IS WITHOUT QUESTION BUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS LEFT WANTING….do not be deceived by the works of those evil ones who say they were representing the authority of God and His beloved Messiah. Peace be upon you all. And may the Our Lord guide us.

  9. Quiet Rider says:

    While the term never appears in the Qur’an itself, it does appear in the Hadith, the traditions of Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted and reliable Hadith collection within Islam, we learn something about Allah. Here is what Muhammad says about Allah and the name “king of kings”.

    Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).”

  10. Sonia says:

    I have taught this to my grandchildren, allah is the image of Satan.

    They understand and hopefully will never join this evil demonic religion. Where I live, muslims have been brought into my community by the coachload. They have seemingly (on the surface) integrated. But, on entering their homes by invitation you are immediately dragged into a debate on religion. I fear NO man and will inform my Muslim neighbour of the similarities of allah to Satan. Yes! They argue, they become agitated. But, dot debate with someone whom have spent 12 years studying this demonic creed.

    May the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob bless all whom call upon him.

    • bash says:

      images are NOT allowed in islam as it was not allowed in the bible. Remind yourself of the first commandment. There is no “image” of god. Images were for the pagans and the heathens who worshiped men, graven images, spirits and nature.

      • Bash,

        You are correct that images of God are strictly forbidden. In Islam, so are images of Muhammad. What conclusion can you draw from considering both of these facts in conjunction?

        • Bash says:

          You missed the point…THERE IS NO IMAGE OF GOD. You can not explain, contrive, perceive, within the known and unknown universes, anything that can adequately describe the One that created the all. Unfortunately, European Christianity had been beseeched with an inaccurate, misleading, racially biased, presumption of islam. As you, your kids learned mathematics, science, geography and were told that man was created in God’s image then went on to create a white god called jesus and you saw yourselves as him, you used all these things gained from the same people you disparage. Semitic people’s origins are african origins, african linquistics, your scientific method was pioneered by Moors, your numbering system (arabic numerials) was given to the west by muslims. Your church was sucking out bad demons with leeches while ex communicating davinci. It took 325 years for western Christianity to “decide” who OR what “god” was and THEN decided on “the trinity”. Then came the protestants who said the the Catholic church…the church of the west was what?…wrong? Please tell me you are not that ignorant of the truth of western Christianity…the same Christianity that justifies forcing people to become Christians…or become slaves. The same western Christianity that forced a pluralistic society that educated europe through Spain after 700 years of muslim, christian and jewish intergration into exile…based on race and creed. You know…the Inquisition. Jesus…is not god, Moses is not god, Muhammad is not god, Buddha is not god…but they all worshiped the One. I don’t care if you accept the last prophesied prophet Muhammad, but don’t think your breaking the first commandment is going to be accepted by Jesus or forgiven by his Creator.

          • Bash,

            I would love to dispel many of your misconceptions regarding Christianity. However, we must stay focused. If you would like to answer any of questions individually, I would be happy to do so.

            But back to the main point. If it is God who is not able to be pictured, than why do Muslims say Muhammad can not be pictured?

            It’s a very simple question.

        • Cynclaire Woods says:

          Now, now let’s not be obtuse.
          It’s the whole of chapter 18 that I found interesting. The Jews were basically saying they were being held accountable for the sins of their predecessors. Ezekiel went on to refute this claim. He summed up his point point plainly in verse 20 with:
          “…The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child…”.
          Now this rocked me. Because for as long as I’ve lived I was told that because Adam had sinned I was covered with that sin. That before I took a breath of air I was guilty and was damned. And therefore, Yeshua had to die to absolve me of this Original Sin. And then I read here in Ezekiel that God commanded him to say that a man is responsible for his own sins. Not his father’s nor his son’s. So…when did that change? How did we go from being accountable for our own deeds to being accountable for the deeds of others?. I tell you true that I was doing nothing more than trying to read the Bible from cover to cover. That’s it. I whole heartedly believed in all I’d been taught and come upon this. There was a conflict here that no one, layman or clergy, could resolve. So I put it down and just trusted in God because I could not longer trust it as the true word of God. Then I found the Qur’an and in it found no conflicts as I studied it. And since then I’d say I’ve lived truer to the message of Yeshua than I ever did before Islam. I’ve never felt so close to God as I do now. It’s funny to me how hard people try to make Allah out to be something separate than Yahweh or Elohim or El-Shaddai or the One Yeshua prayed to in the Garden the one He cried out to calling Him “Eloi”… whom he called Father (which is a completely different discussion). Anyway we believe there was a Torah and Psalms as well as a Gospel delivered by Yeshua. We just say that what we have is a sad shadow of those original scriptures and that the ideologies held by the followers of Yeshua aren’t accurate. That’s it. But for me this is back and forth is just something I do to fill time. I’m comfortable with my beliefs and everyone else is with theirs. I don’t like the misconceptions people have but that’s really on them. Above all else I’m comfortable with other people having their own personal faith especially if it’s driving them to be more compassionate, less judgemental, and feeling spiritually fufilled. To you your way and to me my way.

          • Pat says:

            Seriously? Found no conflicts? Then you have NOT read the Quran. The description of Allah in the Quran matches EXACTLY with the description of Satan in the Bible. Where does sperm come from? According to the Quran it comes from between the backand ribs. It is now known it comes from the balls. Where does the sun set? According to the Quran it sets in a pool of water (because the Earth is flt, according to the Quran. The Quran says the Bible is perfect but Muslims say it is corrupted. Who started Islam? According to the Quran, it says 3 different things. The soldiers who chased Moses, Abraham, and Muhammad. The Quran says that it was handed down in parts but then it also says it was handed down all at once, which is it? There are DOZENS of discrepancies like these in the Quran. How many of our years does it take to equal one day of God? 50,000 or 1000? Both are mentioned in the Quran. You have obviously never read the Quran. I have studied it for 15 years and Allah, in reality is SATAN. Islam matches with being the anti-Christ, EVERYTHING. It matches where the anti Christ comes from (Mecca). It is trying to implement their own laws on humanity, as prophesied about the anti Christ. They have their own calendar as prophesied and thousands of years ago, when Gideon defeated the Midianite’s who has the crescent moon symbol God said he would tear off the crescent symbols at the end the same as he did then. You are on the side of Satan, my friend. The prophesies as told in the BIBLE are coming true right now. The countdown started May 16, 1948 when God said that NOT ONE GENERATION WOULD PASS WHEN ISRAEL RETURNED TO HER LAND (May 16, 1948), BEFORE JESUS WOULD RETURN. It was prophesied that the Temple would be destroyed three times and rebuilt. It has been destroyed three times and rebuilt twice. So, watch it get rebuilt a final time. It was prophesied that Israel would get Jerusalem back, that happened in the war of 1967. It was prophesied that when Israel returned they would never be removed from her land again. Ni matter how big of an army Islam has they have NEVER been able to defeat tiny little Israel. Why do you think that is? That means we are in the last days. The prophecies are being fulfilled from the BIBLE, not the Quran! The Quran is part of Bible prophesy because it was also prophesied that the anti Christ would behead Christians for the name of Jesus. Who is beheading Christians? Yep, Islam. There are so many prophesies being fulfilled and in the process of being fulfilled right now. You better get on the right side. But maybe your name is not written in the book of life. Who else matches even those few things? Their own laws, their own calendar, beheading Christians, and having the crescent moon symbol?
            Only Islam.

          • Cynclaire Woods says:

            Surely Christians have NEVER killed other people for their religion. Christians have killed more Christians than anyone else so that’s out.

            Nuff said. On that.

            And there are many other scientific discoveries being made today that are spoken of in the Qur’an.

            How good is your Arabic Mr. 15 years? Crappy if it even exist at all. I get the impression you’re reading TRANSLATIONS of the Qur’an and not the QUR’AN.

            It states that the Torah was sent down as well as Psalms, and a Gospel (Injeel) given to Yeshua. Never said a thing about THE BIBLE.
            There are several Gospels according to So-And-So.
            Where is the Gospel according to Yeshua?
            As to the Torah and Psalms:

            These aren’t Muslims findings on the Jewish Text. This is taken place in Jerusalem. Jewish people on their OWN text. People that have every reason to bury this work are discoverying and publishing the truth.
            Things that the Jewish clergy have known for ages.

            So. We believe very much that there has been revelation. We just believe that what we have is NOT the original revelation. Proven by both Jewish and Christian scholars. Anyone that has actually studied the history of the Bible knows that MAN has picked the books that would compose the Bible. Even amongst yourselves you have experienced the REMOVAL of books from the Bible. Why is that Protestants have 66 books and that the Catholics (the older of the two sects) has 72 books in their Bible?

            Sunnis and Shiites unfortunately (stupidly) go at it like cats and dogs but even THEY share the exact same text within the Qur’an.

            For all your satanic cant it’s been my experience within America that it’s the so-called Christians that have spewed hatred and negativity at Muslims on a regular basis. Not the other way.

            And please give me full quotes from both Qur’an and the Bible that describe Allah as Satan.

          • Cynclare,

            Regarding Christians killing others, you are correct. And you can read about why it happened in one of my other articles. The short version is that Christians tried to act more like Muslims.


            As for man picking books of the Bible, you have your history wrong. Men didn’t pick them. They had already been selected by the Holy Spirit. What men did was to acknowledge those books which had already been chosen by God.

  11. Pat says:

    You go!!! It is unbelievable how many Christians, especially christian leaders who defend them.

    • Bash says:

      It is a biblical tradition. No images. Throughtout all those years of Judaism.,,all those prophets…where are their pictures? Images..give a false depiction, a misrepresentation of that which is to be revered. The focus is on the creator…not the creation. Think about this…have you read the accounts of how Jesus looked? Does it fit the false image presented? So, when these people say they “saw god” meaning jesus…who are they really seeing? Is it a devil putting thise false images and ideas in their psyche? Muhammah, like ALL 124000 prophets sent to all of mankind guided to the creator, not to themselves. Was Buddha a buddhist, was jesus a christin, was muhammad a mohammadian…no. What was Abraham…he wasn’t a jew. God said “I am that I am”…at that time and now…it is unseen, indescribable as it is…immutable. Jesus is as he is…a man a man of god he is as he and others had seen him. Unfortunately, those with unclean hwarts saw him as god despite him saying it is all God’s doing.

  12. Quiet Rider says:

    Those who practice the Islamic religion have learned how to be two-faced. When they need to make allies of their enemies, they are as friendly as a human being can be. But as soon as they get the upper hand, they turn in a flash and their true colors start to show. It sounds an awful lot like the anti-Christ, doesn’t it, during the seven years of tribulation that’s talked about in the book of revelation?

    • Pat says:

      To Bashir: The Quran is referring to Jesus as the King of Kings even though most Muslims do not realize it. The Quran says at the end times, Allah will hate the king of kings the most. The Bible calls JESUS The KING of KINGS! That can only be Jesus. Who hates Jesus the most? Satan. Who is allah? Satan! The Quran description of Allah matches EXACTLY with the Bible description of Satan, The best deceiver, Taqiyya-lying and a bunch of other descriptions of Allah all match to Satan. . Who is the father of lies? Again, Satan. When did Muhammad say he was a prophet? He didn’t. He referred to himself as a terrorist. “I have been made victorious with Terror.” Did Allah create the universe? That is funny considering, according to the Quran, Allah does not know how to count to 100. If you read the Bible, you would find out the truth as many other Muslims found out when they read it. The true God is Love, Not the hate that Allah and Muhammad spew in the Quran and Muhammad’s hadiths. I can show you dozens of sayings in the Quran that prove Allah is Satan and Jesus is God. Why is there an entire chapter in the Quran dedicated to DEMONS? Why do the demons say the Quran is good and they will follow it? Because it is good for the followers of Satan. Why do you worship a black rock in the Kaaba and believe it used to be white but it absorbed so many sins it turned black. Only the real God can forgive sins. Why does the Quran call Jesus the “Word of God,” and the “Spirit of God?” Is the word created or creator? Why is Jerusalem not mentioned in the Quran but Muslims want it as their capital? Why can the Muslim Countries NOT defeat tiny Israel, no matter how big of an army they have? Because the REAL GOD said Israel would NOT be removed from her land. Israel IS GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE. Why is Jesus Love and say to LOVE your neighbor and Allah said to KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS? Would a real God create a race when he can’t destroy the ones he has already created? Why would he continue to create Jews? He is unable to defeat Israel as it is. Why is it that Muslims who read the Bible realize they have been lied to their entire lives and Christians are people of love and Jesus DID acknowledge being the Son of Godand then the become followers of Jesus and have love in their hearts, even for their enemies and those that hate them?

      • bash says:

        Lie…Isa (Jesus) will return…but it will be like the parable jesus gave of the king, his son, the wedding and those who attended…but were unclean. Now…the question for Christians (less so than Jews) is what is considered “unclean” to the Creator?

        • bash,

          What a great question. Here is what God says regarding this issue in John 3:18,

          He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

          • Bash says:

            325 years…do your homework. The council of Nicea. 325 years to “figure out” who or what god is or isn’t. I’ll stick to the first interpretation that was not intermingled with greco-roman pantheism…the first commandment that required no interpretation. Is that ok? Maybe not since you believe it wasn’t good enough for the jews. I believe in Jesus…but god is not wak enough to need someone to do his work.

          • You seem eager to point out that the Trinity was not officially adopted as a Christian doctrine until the fourth century. It is true that the church officially voted at the Council of Nicaea to clarify doctrinal positions. However, your view reverses cause and effect. The Council of Nicaea did not cause the Trinity to be standard Christian doctrine; the standard and well-accepted doctrine of the Trinity resulted in the effect of the Council codifying it in order to avoid later confusion.

            The Council needed to put language to what the disciples first preached and every Christian for 325 years had been saying. If you would like to discuss Biblical passages which illustrate this point, I would love to do so.

    • Pat says:

      Islam IS the anti Christ. The description of Allah in the Quran matches EXACTLY with the description of Satan in the Bible. Think about this. The anti Christ will push their own laws (Think Sharia) and have their own calendar as Islam does. The description of where the anti Christ comes from matches with Mecca, the birth place of Islam. Many people including Christian leaders think it will be Rome because Rome sits on 7 hills but so do 75 other cities including Mecca.

      • Cynclaire Woods says:

        Noticed you had nothing to say about everything else.
        Noticed you STILL didn’t provide scripture.
        The term Antichrist only appears twice in the Bible and one of the things about him is that he denies Yeshua as having been Messiah (1 John 4:2-3) odd… The Qur’an (and therefore Muhammad) confirm Yeshua as having been the Promised Messiah. So… Your Antichrist proclamation is out. Especially because Muslims too pray against the evils of the False Messiah. So we pray against ourselves. What was it Yeshua said about a house divided when he was called Satan by the Pharisees? Oh yeah:
        “…Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?” -Mathew 12:25-26
        So we warn, pray, and strive against both Satan and the antichrist yet we serve them.

        Get this amateur out of the ring.

  13. Bashir Gaalib says:

    Once again…you people have taken things out of context. First…Isa(jesus) is the messiah. Two, people called him “king of kings”, he did not refer to himsrlf that way. Three, in terms of Islam, the “king of kings” statement is not referring to Jesus. It referes to those who see themselves as kings…case in point…President Drumpf (Trumps real family name…a good nazi name). Also, these sayings are a countdown to return of Jesus…as certain things must pass and this “king of kings” is a mindset of the rulers of that time. You people can’t pull things out of context just to justify your position…that is deceitful. You have non muslims who haven’t even mastered the four languages of the bible trying to interpret a language…google can’t even translate correctly. Do yourselves a favor…if you really want to know the truth about muslims and islam…ask one…not someone who is prejudiced.

    • Quiet Rider says:

      Are you a Christian? I’m sorry, but if you’re an Islamist, I do not believe a word you say for you follow a ‘god’ that admits he is the greatest deceiver and he requires his followers to lie on his behalf.

      • Pat says:

        Quiet Rider: Islam is the Anti Christ. Even the Quran says so. They turn everything in the Bible backwards. 666 is a good number (to them), The beast is good. Jesus comes back to punish the Christians and tear the crosses from them. And much, much more. If you know the Bible, just turn everything around. What is good in the Bible is bad in the Quran and what is bad in the Bible is good in the Quran.

        • Quiet Rider says:

          Yes, I know. Jesus teaches us to love our enemies. The Islamists teach to kill those who do not believe as you do. The God of the Bible is the God of Truth. The Islamists, on the other hand, follow a ‘god’ that teaches deceit and boasts about it. The ‘god’ of Islam is actually Satan, the Great Deceiver, which is what he calls himself in the Quran.

      • Bash says:

        What the eff is an “islamist”? What are you some Fox News watcher? It seems as if you have fallen into some Orwellian dream. Three minutes of hate, newsspeak. Meaningless jargon to solicit and emotional response to preprogrammed dogma. Please…you’ve got to come better than that.

      • Bash says:

        What is a “islamist”. I know what that is…it is a made up word of Orwellian design. It is a propagandist creation meant to misdirect and demean a group of people who are in possession of the the majority of the worlds resources from the oil fields in Nigeria, to the lithium mines in Afghanistan to the palm oil in Indonesia.

    • Pat says:

      Thats funny saying Trumps name is a good nazi name when the Muslims conspired with the nazis to kill Jews. I am not for trump but you need to say something better than that.

  14. Quiet Rider says:

    Are you a Christian? I’m sorry, but if you’re an Islamist, I do not believe a word you say for you follow a ‘god’ that admits he is the greatest deceiver and he requires his followers to lie on his behalf.

  15. Pat says:

    Bashir, By the way I have studied Islam for many years and yes even with some ex Muslims and ex Imams. You, as most Muslims put things into the context that fits what they want to fit. Cse in point. Muhammad said Allah was a single God and then he said he had a wife and daughters but then when his followers complained that Allah was not alone he switched back and said that he had been misled by Satan. Why is that? Answer my questions, Why can’t Allah count to 100? Why have the Muslims been unable to defeat Tiny Israel? Why does the Bible say that Gideon defeated the Midianites and his last act was to tear the crescent symbols from their neck and that Jesus would do the same thing at the end? How did they know thousands of years ago, that God’s enemies would have the crescent moon symbol? Why was Muhammad wrong when he said that Men’s CUM came from their backs, when it is known now it comes from the balls? Why did Muhammad not know he was going to Heaven or Hell? Why was he unable to heal the sick, raise the dead, or as the Quran says, create a bird out of dust like Jesus? Why was he not called the word of God or the Spirit of God? Why did Muhammad marry a six year old and have sex with her when she was 9 years old? What other REAL prophets did not perform miracles? He was no prophet. He slaughtered innocent people, killed children, took female captives as sex slaves and many more acts of terror. The Quran admits Jesus was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, made the blind see, the deaf hear, raised the dead and many other miracles. The only thing it disagrees with is that Jesus rose from the dead, even though there were hundreds of witnesses and Muhammad who did not see it but thinks he knows what happened. He thinks Jesus lied and faked it but then if Jesus lied, that means he did not live a sinless life because lying is a sin. Which is it? Did he live a sinless life or did he lie? You can’t have it both ways. One part of the Quran says that it can not be changed but then another part says it can with abrogation. Why would the REAL God need to change his mind? Quran 20:92-95 claims that Moses confronted Aaron and a Samaritan but this happened in 1446BC and the first Samaritan came in 725 BC when Moses was alive, it was before the existence of Samaritans, how do you explain that?
    Why does the Quran say he created the world instantly and another verse says he created it in 2 days and still another verse says he created it in 6 days. Doesn’t Allah/Muhammad how long it took to create the world?
    Why does the Quran say one of Allah’s days is like 50,000 of our years and anothr says it is like 1,000 of our years? The Quran itself says it was given all at once and then another verse says it was given “over a prolonged period of time.” Why does one sura say that wine is from Satan and then describes Heaven as flowing with wine. Why does it say that Allah grades prophets differently (he made Jesus Above other prophets, yet they kill Jesus followers and on his deathbed, Muhammad cursed Jesus) but then says he does not distinguish between them? Why did Muhamad perform no miracles that had witnesses, if he was so great?Ot is very easy to know that Muhammad is in Hell right now and that he does not deserve to be followed unless you believe killing and sex with children and killing children is all OK. Only the Devil would believe that gang rapes is good and terrorism is good. I challenge you to read the Bible. Why are you, as a Muslim not allowed to ask these questions without being punished? What are they afraid of? You knowing the truth?

    • bash says:

      Really? wives…God…the Creator. you have this mixed up with som greco roman mythology. please if you choose to misinform the people…at least quote the context and the quranic scripture to which you refer. This is a quicky reply.

    • Bash says:

      Quranic chapter and verse and the context in which the revelation was made. See…the Quran was revealed in pieces over 40 years and was reveal at certain occurances. The Quran is not even chronological so on verse may not have anything to do with the subsequent verse. The Quran was remembered in its entirety…even today. The Quran is forever.

  16. Pat says:

    Bashir, By the way, You are right, the Quran calls Jesus the MESSIAH, which means SON OF GOD, even though Muslims deny it. How can Muslims tell us the meaning of OUR WORD? That is like us saying a Mosque is not really a place of worship for Muslims. A mosque means GROCERY STORE. How ridiculous would that be? You are on the wrong team my friend and if you were smart, you would do some research and read the Bible. And other research. Which is worse, to get beheaded for doing some research and questioning the quran and going to Heaven or not questioning things, not getting beheaded but spending eternity in HELL. Eternity is a verrry long time. Your pain would never end. Do some research on a search engine for “Near death experiences Muslims” and see where they went. They all went to hell, were given a second chance and became Christians.

    • Bash says:

      Wrong…please, please do your homework. Messiah does not mean son of god. Wow!!! That…is sooo incorrect. Our creator refers to Isa as his “ruh”, his spirit as it is the creator’s spirit that was placed in him…but that does not make jesus god…it did not make adam god and god breathe life into him…without a woman. “Your word” wasn’t yours initially. The first christians (called messahi) were jews and they were a sect, amoungst many within the jewish community. Those first christians did not accept Paul’s interpretation of Jesus’ message. Jesus himself never worshiped himself (gethesame look it up). For three hundred years there were different “interpretation” of the divinity. Look it up. It was the pagan west that accepted the panthiestic greco-roman, image ladden dogma of the trinity. The others…they were monotheistic. The discussions we are having happened already in Turkey where Christianity came to power…and were those same people ultimately rejected it by accepting Islam. Then…as far as you westerners knew…all you had was the roman catholics. The greek orthodox didn’t agree with the Catholics, and the protestants said the catholics were wrong. This went on for what…1200 years? And now…you guys think those guys got it right. If you really think about it…you gotta laugh…it is a comedy of errors. My being muslim has nothing to do with the history of your own faith. I…as someone of non european origin has seem the truth of “your” Christianity…the two faced reality of it. The secular says peace and unity…the the spirit says separation and power. Understand this…if you can…the near east (northern africa) and the middle east is the cradle of civilization. These places were “civilization”…then came those greeks, then the Romans. They had been an invading force in these lands since atleast 300BC. They oppressed them all…invaders…colonizers. the jews wanted a champion…a savior to free them of these pagans…egyptians, greeks and romans…and so did the people. Jesus…was not the person. The Romans became the wolves in sheeps clothing when they became the holy roman empire. For three hundred years they were the oppressors trying to gain more power and trying to maintain power. Then came Islam. It did…what the jews thought jesus was going to do…get rid of the Romans. Islam did that…while not forcing christians to change faith…that’s why the OLDEST christians church is still active in these muslim countries. Western churches…are not even the original churches. The original churches are those of Abyssinia, the Coptic…and one other that i forgot. Just to let you know…those wahhabbi saudi arabians…the prophet muhammad spoke about them…negatively. but…that is them…not the 95% of muslims who reject what these power hungry racist arabs preach. But keep this in mind…they are in bed with christian and jewish sickos…the christian right and the zionist. All of them are sick racist…everything islam is against. Look up the prophet Muhammad’s last sermon. You will see how revelate the words are. As a muslim…a convert…a montheistic christian (i was taught by jehovah witnesses and the Unitarian church of christ) there is no more segrgated time in this country than on Sunday…church day. But…i went to friday prayer at a masjid…blue eyed blonde to the bluist black all together worshipping the one unseen creator. No matter what dogma whatever church you go to preaches…the reality of what shows in those churches is what’s in their hearts. What is it you christians like to claim about telling a thing by its actions… well…lets see. Know what…you are an american…you know the lies, the hate, the dropping nuclear bombs on non combatants. Overthrowning governments. False flags like vietnam. The invasion of panama to keep it for ourself. The need to stay in the middle east. This racially charged…regardless of belief…atmosphere. Anti-christ…by the look of it…it is the pot calling the kettle black…

  17. Bashir Gaalib says:

    Quraan=word of the father, the one, the creator. Hadith=words of the prophet Muhammad. In islam there is that clear distinction. Hadith further explains what was revealed. Therefore, if you quote something from the quraan, you have to find the subsequent hadith. The quraan was not compiled chronologically, so one verse may be independent of the previous or following verse. So, when speaking of “the king of kings”, here is the explanation as this is a prophecy…of what will happen…

    “It was narrated by Ahmed in his Musnad, from Al-Nu’man b. Bashir, who said:

    “We were sitting in the mosque of the Messenger of Allah (saw), and Bashir was a man who did not speak much, so Abu Tha’labah Al-Khashnee came and said: ‘Oh, Bashir bin Sa’ad, have you memorised the words of the Messenger of Allah (saw) regarding the rulers?’ Huthayfah replied, ‘I have memorised his words’. So Abu Tha’labah sat down and Huthayfah said, ‘The Messenger of Allah (saw) said ‘Prophethood will be amongst you whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a Khilafah on the way of the Prophet, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if Allah wished to lift it up. Then there will be an inheritance rule, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a coercive rule, and it will be whatever Allah wishes it to be, then He will lift it up if He wished to lift it up. Then there will be a Khilafah on the way of Prophethood.’ Then he was silent.”… is being fulfilled…we are currently in the age of the “coersive” rule…the rule of kings. As stated Jesus will return. One day the christian west will understand the first commandment that there is only one diety and not three in one. Recognize that Jesus is his own self…he is “that he is”…a man…as the “father” “is that he is”…the One diety in all that exists and everything is a subsequent creation.

  18. Pat says:

    Bashir What you are saying makes no sense. That Hadith has nothing to do with what I said. It has nothing to do with my questions any of them. As usual Muslims twist things to make them fit what they try to say. Read the book “understanding muhammad” by Ali Sina a former Muslim and he explains very well how God can be 3 in 1. Why does the Bible description of Satan match up exactly with the Quran description of Allah when Muhammad said for his followers to listen to the book but then later if he said it was corrupted, when? Not during the time of his life. Muhammad never said he was a prophet. He said he was a terrorist. Why would you want to follow someone who did all the horrible things he did, such as beheadings and murder, rape, gang rapes, child rape and much more? Read the Bible, if you have the guts and your answers will be given to you. God is LOVE! Not the hatred of Muhammad and Allah. Why can’t you answer my questions such as why Muslims can not defeat Israel. And why there are so many discrepancies in the Quran. And why Allah could not count to 100. You can make up excuses and reasoning but instead of doing that why don’t you just accept the fact you are being misled by Satan, the same as Muhammad admitted he was?

    • bash says:

      Quicky reply…you say Islam is something new…we say it is all the same throughout time. the reason for the “similarities” is because we are not talking about different beings. “I Am that I am” is the description god gave to Moses…being the god with no name. If god was Jesus…in the beginning…he would have to Moses…”hey, my name is Jesus…not “I am that I am”. saying I am that I am is describing the total uniqueness of the eternal…the un-created…the Creator of all that exist. Just for the record…Adam was a much more difficult creation than Jesus (pbuh).

      • Bash,

        Your logic assumes that God is not a Triune God. If God were not three in one, then yes, He would have said His name was Jesus (He saves) from the beginning. But since God is Triune, He has different persons. God the Father carries the name “I AM who I AM”, while God the Son is named Jesus (He saves).

        Since you start with the wrong assumption, you draw the wrong conclusion. If you instead start with the correct assumption that God is three in one and one in three, then you see your argument proves the reverse of what you intend to prove.

        • Bash says:

          Triune…was NOT the First Commandment…period! If you can’t comprehend that…you well regarded as one of the unclean in the parable yeshua gave of the king, his son and the wedding.

          • Bash,

            You are making a simple logic error. God says to worship Him and nothing else. We agree on that. But what does that mean? If God is God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, then by definition, the first commandment requires that we worship God in His correct and revealed form.

            Your equating the first commandment with tawhid has no foundation.

    • Bash says:

      The only hatred is coming from you. Where is this “hatred” written in the Quran or passed on in hadith and what are the context in which it is being said? What act of hatred has Islam heaved on you?

  19. bash says:

    Matthew 22:2-14
    “The kingdom of Heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
    “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet!’
    “But they paid no attention and went off — one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
    “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
    “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ The man was speechless.
    “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

    • Bash says:

      Btw…this is further proof that there is no trinity. There is the king…and then there is the son. As you can see…the king has all say…the son is silent.

      • Really? How do you know that the King is not a three in one God? Where does this scripture passage say that?

        • bash says:

          It is evident in two occurances…if not more if you include that historically the monotheism of Abraham/judiasm did not accept pantheistic, greco-roman mythos, or the “godhead” beliefs of the Hindus and Egyptians (yes, their pagan beliefs had the same “godhead” that included the “mother/child/god” mythos), But. in regards to the direct charge against trinitarian concept is this…it was MADE UP in 325AD without Jesus’ opinion during the Nicean Council. There were calls against this ideology from the beginning…that’s why they needed that “council” to determine who or what “god” is, has been or will be. This conversation never existed in the 5000 years before the pagans decided to grab hold of this misunderstood sect of Judaism (the messahi). For 600 years, before islam, they questioned this concept. I would quote John 14:26, but they keep on changing the translation. Before it was translated as the “holy Spirit”, but they realized that was the wrong translation. So, they changed it to read “the Comforter” or “Advocate”, which was the right translations, but THEN they decided to add back in “…who is the Holy Spirit”. Personally, this is why i stopped dealing with the bible. I had been reading the bible since I was 10 years old and have gotten fed up with their constant “tampering” with the so-called “word of god”. the bible now is the word of men. Do your homework…everything isn”t what you see.

          • bash says:

            Just for the record…my monotheism existed before I knew anything about Islam. I was raised amoungst Jews and Christians who separated the man Jesus from the Creator. regardless of my acceptance of Islam…historically, the reality of the conflict of ideology in christianity did exist and you can’t blame Islam for that…period. Do your homework.

          • Heresy has always existed and it always will. In that sense, you are correct that Islam is not new.

    • Bash,

      Regarding your link, I actually wrote an entire article regarding the 2nd point on that list. You can find it here.

      I’m not sure what you are trying to do other than provide more avenues to show the bankruptcy of Islam.

      • bash says:

        just a quicky…i glanced over your post. arabic….is NOT a language you can simply translate. I have some texts that were written by islamic saints over a thousand years ago. I asked native speakers of arabic, who are also doctors and english proficient, to translate these text for me. they say no. I asked why. they said that the language has different depths which just cant be translated one word to one word. I had read some of my teachers writing in english, he had to use hyphenated words to translate/describe words that are arabic. to get an idea as to the complexity of the language…try to find some arabic and have google translate it for you. I bet it will make no sense. also along those lines…hebrew and other semitic languages fall along the same lines as they too are phonetically similar (three constant root words)

  20. Bash says:

    To those Trinitarians…this concept is a metaphysical concept. We are jave this capacity to be one…with the One. That spirit that was introduced into this creation called humanity is capable of transcending our physical limitations. That is done when you do as yeshua had done “fulfill the law”. Yeshua fulfilled the Laws sent by his father…not merely put outward appearances, but internalized them. The first Law that was internalized was…the First Commandment.

  21. rani says:

    where is the location of this place?

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